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KANE OG · Jun 02, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Good God! It's been ages since this spamming "fix".

If you don't remember, anet (capitalization ommited on purpose), in their infinite wisdom forced all chatting starting with wtb or wts to automatically appear in the trade channel and not in all chat.

This "fixed" the spammers right? Right? After all this time, you'd think they would have compiled a freakin database of all the workarounds (w t b, selling, w.t.s., etc.)

So where's the fix? How on earth is anyone supposed to cut through this crap? An answer not laced with rhetoric would be nice from the team that bought us loot scaling, and encouraged us to sell to other players.

KANE

ps: I know this post is dripping with frustration, but that's exactly how trying to buy or sell something feels.

Let the flames and cries of, "We need an auction house" begin.

King Kong · Jun 02, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

We need a new guild wars!!! ... oh wait

Jecht Scye · Jun 02, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

If you think you're getting an auction house in GW, don't get your hopes up.

VitisVinifera · Jun 02, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

this is the same paradox anet forces into:

1. There will be no auction house. The current trade system, if you want to call it that, is all we get.
2. The amount of trade spam is unacceptable. Possible bans for spamming may occur at any time, and the rules for these bans may change without notice

pick your poison.

Evilsod · Jun 02, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Ah i remember that... the most pointless update Anet have ever done. I just wish they'd at least add a huge list of things to that. w tb, wt b, w.t.b. You could make the list a few miles long, it would be funny seeing Anet filter literally every coherant WTS/WTB straight to Trade Chat ^^

Gregslot · Jun 02, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

use the party pannel.... or at least try
i allways put somethig at the party pannel and it gets sold.
U should try it to.

mafia cyborg · Jun 02, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

disable copy/paste/uparrow in local chat = fixed

Patrick Smit · Jun 02, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

disable copy/paste/uparrow in local chat = fixed

There is no solution for bad mentality

Spazzer · Jun 02, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregslot

use the party pannel.... or at least try
i allways put somethig at the party pannel and it gets sold.
U should try it to.

If the party panel didn't delete every time I changed districts, I might use it.

KANE OG · Jun 02, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jecht Scye

If you think you're getting an auction house in GW, don't get your hopes up.

Never planned on one or counted on one. Re-read my post if you're confused.

KANE

Sk8tborderx · Jun 02, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Trade improvements have been asked for since beta, and they still refuse to do anything about it, it seems they are happy with how it is, even if it is on the same level as the trade system on a game as horrible as runescape.

Mr_Cynical · Jun 02, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

Trade improvements have been asked for since beta, and they still refuse to do anything about it, it seems they are happy with how it is, even if it is on the same level as the trade system on a game as horrible as runescape.

Bear in mind that Anet already have your money. If you leave the game because of the broken promises, then their profits go up (through reduced server load), not down. This is in contrast to the likes of Blizzard (yes, WoW is horrible, but I'm using Blizzard as an example of a subscription MMO developer) whose profits go down when a player leaves.

This will probably turn into another 'fanboys vs whiners' flame fest, but I would ask that anyone defending Anet at least understands a basic point: Guild Wars is not a free to play online game. Unless you shoplifted your copy of GW, you paid to play this game and therefore you (like me) are a paying customer of Anet. Paying customers of Anet have just as much right to demand value for money as paying customers of Blizzard or anyone else.

Miral · Jun 02, 2007, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

disable copy/paste/uparrow in local chat = fixed

This gets my vote.
actually, this would be PERFECT! get rid of tons of spam and only get people actually typing messages!

Gregslot · Jun 03, 2007, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miral

This gets my vote.
actually, this would be PERFECT! get rid of tons of spam and only get people actually typing messages!

you know that if you press up you will get your last message back, right?

Miral · Jun 03, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Gregslot

you know that if you press up you will get your last message back, right?

you know that the post i quoted included removing that, right?

Bryant Again · Jun 03, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

disable copy/paste/uparrow in local chat = fixed

And no one gets banned!

/signed to the 100th power.

Skye Marin · Jun 03, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

If you're not allowed to copy/paste/up arrow, then you'll see a huge influx of people using Keyboard Macros, weither that's legal or not. Just imagine. If you use a Macro, you can advertize quickly to all districts 10 times faster than anyone else, and nobody can find out. You press a key on your board, and it types out a string of characters. How can that be detected? What if there are timing imperfections coded in? It's clear to me that would never solve the problem.

Without the ability to at least advertise to each of the different districts once, trading overall will diminish fantastically. In a bad way.

I use the copy/paste/and up arrow all the time, and not just for trading. For Handing out builds, repeating what I last said to people after a map change, conversing in an auction with bids, or answering the same questions from two people at the same time. It's a useful function, and practically, it will never even consider being removed.

Warrior Of The Toon · Jun 03, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

Trade improvements have been asked for since beta, and they still refuse to do anything about it, it seems they are happy with how it is, even if it is on the same level as the trade system on a game as horrible as runescape.

Except in RuneScape you get more boxes =P

And since the topic is heading towards Auction Houses, my guess is our only chance lies with GW2, or even 3...

Miral · Jun 03, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

I use the copy/paste/and up arrow all the time, and not just for trading. For Handing out builds, repeating what I last said to people after a map change, conversing in an auction with bids, or answering the same questions from two people at the same time. It's a useful function, and practically, it will never even consider being removed.

the proposal is to not allow it in LOCAL chat. it would still work in trade, group, guild, alliance, and tells. Gets rid of the problem of local chat spammers, still leaves the functionality there for all the legit uses.

And as for macro programs, the person would then be using a 3rd party bot program, and deserve to be banned for that spamming.

Curse You · Jun 03, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Here's an easy way around disabling copy past/Up Arrow.

Type out your message. Say it in All Chat. Switch to Trade Chat. Press Up Arrow/paste. Switch back to All Chat. Say it in All Chat.

So, maybe you should put more though into the idea.